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W.039Thinking Machines is near a $5B round at $40B before the money. That is up to 450 times the run rate a source gave in September

Thinking Machines Lab, Mira Murati’s AI lab, is set to close a $5B round led by Accel at a $40B pre-money valuation, Business Insider reported late on November 5, US time, about $45B after the money by our arithmetic. That is below the $50B it discussed a year ago and 3.75 times its $12B seed valuation of July 2025. In September a person familiar with its finances put its annual revenue run rate at over $100M; Anthropic’s IPO talk is about 18 times its run rate.

Round, nearing close
$5B
led by Accel, per BI
Valuation, pre-money
$40B
about $45B post-money, our arithmetic
Against the July 2025 seed
3.75×
post-money; pre-money is 20% below the $50B talks
Post-money ÷ “over $100M” run rate
≤450×
Anthropic IPO talk: ~18×

The round

The terms match what was reported in September. Business Insider reported that Thinking Machines is set to close a $5B round as soon as this week, led by Accel, at a $40B pre-money valuation, citing people familiar with it. Accel did not respond and a company representative declined to comment, according to the report. Adding the new money gives about $45B post-money; the new investors would own about 11% of the company. In September, The Information reported talks for $5B to $6B at a valuation of at least $40B before the investment, with Nvidia in talks to supply about $2.5B of it. Business Insider’s report does not mention Nvidia, and its participation has not been confirmed.

It is lower than the lab once aimed for. Thinking Machines raised a $2B seed round led by Andreessen Horowitz in July 2025 at a $12B valuation, before it had released a product. In November 2025 Bloomberg reported early talks at about $50B; Business Insider says those talks were abandoned. The new pre-money valuation is 20% below that figure and 3.33 times the seed valuation. If the round closes, the lab will have raised about $7B in announced and reported equity, not counting Nvidia’s undisclosed strategic investment in March.

From $12B at seed to about $45B, after $50B talks fell away

Thinking Machines Lab valuation, $ billions: the July 2025 seed (post-money, closed), November 2025 talks (about $50B, abandoned), September 2026 talks (at least $40B pre-money), and the round Business Insider reports as nearing close, shaded to $40B pre-money and outlined to about $45B with the $5B added (our arithmetic). Grey rows are talks.

0$10B$20B$30B$40B$50BSeed, July 2025$2B raised, post-money; closedSeed, July 2025: $2B raised at $12B post-money (TechCrunch)$12BTalks, November 2025about $50B (Bloomberg); abandoned (BI)November 2025: early talks at about $50B (Bloomberg); Business Insider says they were abandoned~$50BTalks, September 2026$5–6B; ≥$40B pre-money (The Information)September 2026: $5–6B at at least $40B pre-money (The Information)≥$40B preRound nearing close, Nov 2026$40B pre-money (BI) + $5B raisedNovember 2026: $40B pre-money (Business Insider)Plus the $5B raised: about $45B post-money (our arithmetic)$45B post
0$10B$20B$30B$40B$50BSeed, Jul 2025$2B, post-moneySeed, July 2025: $2B raised at $12B post-money (TechCrunch)$12BTalks, Nov 2025Bloomberg; abandonedNovember 2025: early talks at about $50B (Bloomberg); Business Insider says they were abandoned~$50BTalks, Sep 2026at least, pre-moneySeptember 2026: $5–6B at at least $40B pre-money (The Information)≥$40B preNov 2026$40B pre + $5BNovember 2026: $40B pre-money (Business Insider)Plus the $5B raised: about $45B post-money (our arithmetic)$45B post

What the lab sells

Revenue figures are thin and unaudited. In September, TechCrunch reported an annual revenue run rate of over $100M, citing a source with knowledge of the company’s financials, and The Information reported annualized revenue of at least a few hundred million dollars. Neither figure comes from the company. At $100M the new valuation is 400× the run rate before the money and 450× after it; because the run rate is “over” $100M, those are upper bounds. A run rate of $300M would bring the post-money multiple to 150×. Anthropic’s IPO valuation talk is about 18 times its third-quarter revenue annualized, as W.034 set out.

Its product is Tinker, a service for fine-tuning models, and its own open-weight models. On Thursday, November 5, it released Inkling 2 Small, with 594B parameters (17B active per token, per Dataconomy), priced at $0.30 per million input tokens and $1.00 per million output tokens, according to Artificial Analysis; the company plans to release the weights once external safety testing is complete. For compute, it signed a multiyear deal in March for at least 1 GW of Nvidia Vera Rubin systems from early 2027, with an undisclosed Nvidia investment. Business Insider says about a third of its founding team has left, including Barret Zoph, Luke Metz and Andrew Tulloch, partly drawn by large pay packages from rivals such as Meta and OpenAI.

On a run rate of $100M, the valuation is up to 450 times sales

Valuation divided by annual revenue run rate. Thinking Machines: $40B pre-money (shaded) and about $45B post-money (outlined) divided by $100M, the floor of the “over $100M” a source gave TechCrunch in September, so both are upper bounds. Anthropic: $1.2–1.3T of IPO valuation talk divided by its third-quarter revenue times four, from W.034.

0×100×200×300×400×500×Thinking Machines$40B pre / $45B post ÷ “over $100M”$40B pre-money ÷ $100M = 400×$45B post-money ÷ $100M = 450×≤450×AnthropicIPO valuation talk ÷ Q3 revenue × 4 (W.034)Anthropic: $1.2–1.3T of IPO valuation talk ÷ its third-quarter revenue annualized, about 18× (W.034)~18×
0×100×200×300×400×500×Thinking Machines÷ “over $100M”$40B pre-money ÷ $100M = 400×$45B post-money ÷ $100M = 450×≤450×AnthropicIPO talk, W.034Anthropic: $1.2–1.3T of IPO valuation talk ÷ its third-quarter revenue annualized, about 18× (W.034)~18×

Nvidia’s reported lab stakes

Nvidia investments in AI labs as reported, $ billions: OpenAI ($30B in the $122B round that closed in March, per Bloomberg); Anthropic (up to $10B, committed November 2025); Thinking Machines (about $2.5B, in talks per The Information in September, outlined because it is unconfirmed); xAI (up to $2B of equity in a planned $20B round, per Bloomberg). Earlier Nvidia stakes, including in Thinking Machines’ seed and in Mistral, are undisclosed and not drawn.

0$10B$20B$30BOpenAI$122B round, March 2026OpenAI: $30B in the $122B round that closed March 31 (Bloomberg)$30BAnthropiccommitment, Nov 2025Anthropic: up to $10B, committed November 2025≤$10BThinking Machinestalks, Sep 2026 reportThinking Machines: about $2.5B, in talks (The Information, September)~$2.5BxAIequity in a planned $20B roundxAI: up to $2B of equity in a planned $20B round (Bloomberg, Oct 2025)≤$2B
0$10B$20B$30BOpenAIMar 2026 roundOpenAI: $30B in the $122B round that closed March 31 (Bloomberg)$30BAnthropicNov 2025Anthropic: up to $10B, committed November 2025≤$10BThinking Machinestalks, SepThinking Machines: about $2.5B, in talks (The Information, September)~$2.5BxAIin $20B roundxAI: up to $2B of equity in a planned $20B round (Bloomberg, Oct 2025)≤$2B

What this changes on 06.ai

  • Labs funding pack: a $5B round at $40B pre-money, Accel-led, nearing close (reported, not announced). Worth adding once the company confirms; the Nvidia portion is still only reported as talks.
  • Labs funding pack: below the frontier labs, valuations set in 2025 talks are being revised down: Thinking Machines’ pre-money is 20% below the $50B it discussed a year ago.

Sources and method

ItemFigureSource
RoundSet to close a $5B round as soon as this week, led by Accel, at a $40B pre-money valuation; earlier valued at more than $10B after a $2B seed; talks at $50B abandoned; about a third of the founding team has left; a new release on ThursdayBusiness Insider, via DNYUZ, Nov 6
RoundSame terms, relayedDataconomy, Nov 6
Seed$2B at a $12B valuation, led by Andreessen Horowitz; Nvidia, Accel, AMD and others took partTechCrunch, Jul 15, 2025
Talks, 2025Early talks at about a $50B valuationBloomberg, Nov 13, 2025
Talks, Sep 2026Accel in talks to lead a round of at least $1B at at least $40B; annual revenue run rate over $100M, per a source with knowledge of its financialsTechCrunch, Sep 3, 2026, on The Information
Talks, Sep 2026Round of $5–6B at at least $40B pre-money; Nvidia in talks to invest about $2.5BThe Information, via Dealroom
ComputeMultiyear deal for at least 1 GW of Nvidia Vera Rubin systems, deploying from early 2027, with an undisclosed Nvidia investmentTechCrunch, Mar 10, 2026
ModelInkling 2 Small: 594B parameters; priced at $0.30 input and $1.00 output per million tokens; weights not yet publicArtificial Analysis, Nov 5
Model17B active parameters; weights to be released after external safety testingDataconomy, Nov 6
NvidiaNvidia and SoftBank each put $30B into OpenAI’s $122B round, completed at an $852B valuationBloomberg, Mar 31, 2026
NvidiaUp to $10B in Anthropic (November 2025); up to $2B of equity in xAI’s planned $20B round (Bloomberg report, October 2025)TechCrunch, Jan 2, 2026
AnthropicIPO valuation talk of about 18 times third-quarter revenue annualizedW.034

Post-money: 40 + 5 = 45; new investors’ share 5 ÷ 45 = 11.1%. Against earlier values: 45 ÷ 12 = 3.75; 40 ÷ 12 = 3.33; 40 ÷ 50 − 1 = -20%. Run-rate multiples: 40 ÷ 0.1 = 400×; 45 ÷ 0.1 = 450×; 45 ÷ 0.3 = 150×. Equity raised: 2 + 5 = 7. The seed is reported as $12B (TechCrunch) and as “more than $10B” (Business Insider); $10B before the $2B and $12B after it would reconcile the two. Nvidia’s about $2.5B would be about 50% of a $5B round; it comes from a September report and is not in the November one.

Wire reports are written within hours of the news, on a six-hour schedule. Each lists its sources and shows the arithmetic behind its figures. Not investment advice.